Wednesday Advice Smackdown
November 09, 2005
Oh man, I'm so torn.
On the one hand, it's Wednesday, which means that logically, I should write an Advice Smackdown.
On the other hand, I have a batch of what may be the most adorable, Internet-melting baby photos yet.
I mean, for real:
I wonder if I can somehow combine the substance of a Smackdown with the cheap thrill of a baby photo essay and create what could be the ULTIMATE ENTRY, one that would please the old-school readers AND the ones who curse any entry that is not a baby photo entry and who are still bitter that I haven't finished Part Two of Noah's Birth Story, which I KNOW, OKAY? I'll get it done before his first birthday, I swear. I thought it would be fun to write about my hospital stay and my Roommate From Hell Who Would Not Stop Discussing Her Diarrhea and how I got yelled at for sneaking Illegal Ice Chips, but it's turning out to be more boring than fun, and I only like fun things.
Like big goofy baby smiles! GOD.
Anyway, the first question in today's Smackdown is actually a big fat generic response to the dozens of questions I've received about Bare Escentuals, the mineral-based makeup that QVC will. Not. Stop. Advertising. All. Damn. Day. And. Why. Do. I. Forget. To. Fast. Forward. Commercials. When. I. Have. TiVo?
Everybody is fascinated by the marketing for this stuff. Except me, because I have a fairly firm rule about products that do cutesy things with the spelling of their name like that. ESCENTUALS? GEDDIT? It's ESSENTIAL but it has a SCENT so we'll call it ESCENTUALS! It's ONEDERFUL!
(Seriously, one time Jason brought home a bag of this natural wheat-based kitty litter called Swheat Scoop and the very sight of that bag sent me into near conniptions every day and I finally threw it out and decreed that we were never, ever buying it again, because that is the DUMBEST MOST AWFUL NAME EVER.)
Ahem. Anyway.
So I have not personally tried the Bare Escentuals line, but two of my real-life fellow product whore friends have, and they both hated it. Among their complaints: an overly complicated application technique, inferior coverage and too much shimmer.
But! Because the Advice Smackdown is not (entirely) gossip and heresay, I went the extra mile for you people and consulted the Powerhouses of Online Product Reviews: Real Girl of Real Girl Beauty and Melissa of DeLush.
Melissa's experience with the brand is limited, but she gave her initial impressions:
"We've been wondering about it too. My mom uses it and says she like their shadows and blush (I've heard great things about the shadows). But you know I stood in Sephora for 20 minutes one day debating whether or not to get the face kit thingy they have now that supposedly has everything you need in it to get started. (A bit more than you probably need if you ask me, but I guess a good deal otherwise.)
I finally decided to get the mineral veil (which devotees rave about) and I must say, it made me ITCH. My face felt weird. Also, I got the new tinted one, and it was pretty orangey.
I know it's all in the application (when it comes to their foundation, too) but it seemed like so much work, plus I didn't have a great experience with the mineral veil. Maybe we at DeLush really should review this stuff once and for all..."
(Amy says: Yes! You probably should, and please subtract points for the horrific QVC commercial with the woman singing in the high screechy voice about hey-hey hey-hey what a sunny day or whatever because SHUT. UP.)
Real Girl went above and beyond the call of duty and actually WENT TO SEPHORA to try some additional samples before offering her full opinion, which WHAT A SACRIFICE PEOPLE, SHE COULD HAVE BEEN KILLED. Or left completely broke. Anyway, here's her lowdown:
"Sephora, I love you so. Especially when you greet me by my name--"That Girl Who's Always Asking For Samples."
I've tested and examined three Bare Escentuals products now from the i.d. line. The most interesting was the bareMinerals Foundation SPF 15. (It's a powder! And a foundation! A powdation!) I get a lot of emails from readers with very oily skin asking me how they can use sunscreen without using lotion, and this foundation would definitely be an option. It's got titanium dioxide as its first ingredient and zinc oxide as well, and those are both the most powerful mineral sunscreens on the market.
Would I recommend this powder over normal sunscreen? Not so much. The layer might be too thin or not quite uniform, but for someone who doesn't already use lotion or a liquid foundation with SPF 15 or higher, this would be a fine option. So -- got oily skin and are scared of normal foundations and sunscreens? Give this powder foundation a try.
I also took a look at the Tinted Mineral Veil which is a perfectly fine loose powder blush for fair-ish skin, but I don't see why it would be better than any other loose powder blush. It's a little creamier, I guess, than most powders.
As for the other blushes? Lordy go easy! That's some sparkle even Mariah Carey wouldn't have used in "Glitter."
Ok, now to the major critique. The Bare folks are targeting these products to people with sensitive skin, but I think they'd be better for people with oily skin. Yet that said, I have a major problem with their motto, “Makeup so pure you can sleep in it.” Bare Escentuals people? Purity does not equal non-pore-clogging. Many of these powders contain titanium dioxide and zinc oxide. These are not sunscreens that are absorbed by the skin -- they're used like a shield that rests on top of the skin. If you were to sleep in these products, I'd be surprised if your poor pores didn't wind up gasping for air, screaming for help. Please don't sleep in your Bare Escentuals.
In the end, what's most impressive about these products is their marketing. How's that for a long and boring answer to your short and pithy question?"
(Amy says: That was a fabulous answer, and I'm so totally digging this whole "dump questions on other people and then cut-and-paste their answers in" approach to the Smackdown.)
More questions to come later today, but as you can see, I've got me some slopes to patrol and some baby cheeks to gobble.
Dear Amalah!
A fellow Amy needs your help.
My boss is getting married in April. Regarding the dress code, "it's a
cocktail wedding so you can just wear a pretty dress", so I was all YAY I
ACTUALLY HAVE ONE TO WEAR.
But the problem started a few days ago, where she changed her mind and now
it's a FORMAL thing. Hence floor-length or three-quarter dresses for all.
(Except for the men.) And the only floor-length thing I have is my formal
(prom dress), and it's beautiful and silky and halterneck, but BLACK.
Is there something wrong with wearing black to a wedding? I just feel weird
about it.
At first I figured "screw her dress code, I'll wear what I like" but then at
work she was all "so do you know what you're wearing yet? Got anything
floor-length?"
AARGH. I don't want to go out and buy some hideously expensive garment that
I will never wear again.
(And if my boss sounds slightly controlling and psychotic, it's because
we're piano teachers and I've known her since I was eleven.)
So. Buy something new? Wear whatever I want? Or go with the depressing
blackness?
Sorry about the length of this. Congratulations to you and Jason on Noah as
well, he's gorgeous.
-Ames
It is perfectly acceptable to wear black to a wedding. I know it feels wrong, and perhaps at one time there was a rule about it (I do not own a Miss Manners etiquette book and never have -- my rules for social manners usually depend on What Everybody Else Is Doing These Days), but no longer.
I have worn black to weddings. I have seen other women wear black to weddings. I have been to weddings where just about every other woman in attendance was wearing black. (And these weren't even formal weddings -- I wore short black dresses with strappy heels and you could not pick me out from the pack on the dance floor.)
At an afternoon-ish wedding this past spring, Jason wore a brown sportcoat and I wore a cream and blue sundress, and we were the weirdos who didn't wear black, although I maintain we were dressed more appropriately for the time and season and blah blah blah, black is just everybody's dressy color of choice these days.
(Black: It's Not Just For Funerals Anymore!)
Wear your black dress. The end.
More questions to come, but right now I gotta go bust a move out on the dance floor, yo.
GAH.
Okay, the child has just stayed wide, wide awake through his usual lunchtime nap. I am very hungry, and while he's been mostly charming and smiley, he's now at that overtired-overstimulated-I've-forgotten-how-to-go-sleep-so-I- will-scream-instead stage, which AHHHHHHHHHHGOTOSLEEPALREADYITISNOTTHATHARD.
Oh, and 10 minutes ago? I had to retrieve a small piece of rawhide FROM MY DOG'S THROAT, WHERE IT WAS CHOKING HER, SWEET MERCIFUL GOD.
And the minute I yanked it out? She tried to eat it. AGAIN.
I'm getting the sense that I am not spending my days with a pair of intellectual giants here.
So instead, I shall wrap this up quickly with a summary of the opinions about Bare Escentuals from the comments section, where the debate rages on. (And rage on, rage on, because I'm not going to provide anymore entertainment for y'all today.)
The BE line seems to be a love-it-or-hate-it kind of thing -- I'm not seeing much middle ground. Those that love it swear.by.it, as a way of life even, and to the haters, it's a scourge upon humanity that must be stopped.
Bare Escentuals: it's the Amway of make-up, apparently.
So, I shall now dispense my own cribbed-from-the-comments advice. (And bear in mind this is coming from someone who has never tried it and probably never will, because, well, QVC? Really? So I can buy my make-up and then some creepy collectible dolls?)
And in that vein, if you want to try Bare Escentuals, DON'T buy it from QVC. If possible, go to Sephora and use the testers first, or see if you can score some samples. Since people are reporting some disturbing reactions to the stuff (from itching to burning to pore irritation to raging rashes), it sounds like you DEFINITELY want to try before you buy.
(Although I'm willing to give BE the benefit of a doubt here, because I imagine if your target audience is people with sensitive skin, it seems inevitable that your product is just going to irritate a good percentage of that audience, no matter what.)
If you don't have a Sephora near you, I would still suggest you avoid QVC and buy the products at Sephora's web site the first time you try them, because Sephora has a very excellent 60-day return policy (you can return opened products that just didn't work for you no problem), whereas returning something bought through an infomercial is usually a labyrinth of sputtering futility. (And we have at least one testimonial as to the shittitude of BE to issue a refund.)
If you love Bare Escentuals? Awesome. Use it, love it, go with God.
If you hate Bare Escentuals? Well, you seem to be in pretty good company.
If you could not give a rat's ass about Bare Escentuals? Well, here's a photo of the Storch Family Brain Trust instead.
Got a question about...something? Anything? Send it to advice@amalah.com and blahblahblah it might get answered someday.







i will feel so much better skiing this season knowing who is patroling the slopes. and i'll be able to recognize him for sure because oh my god i don't think you had a baby i think you just cloned jason.
Is it possible that boy gets cuter every day?
I think so.
Oh the big baby smiles may kill me with their adorableness. But it would totally be a great way to go. What a cutie!
Bare Escentuals is BAD. I'm embarrassed to admit that I got sucked into the stupid QVC presentation on more than one occasion. It's like some kind of mind control. Anyway, I finally broke down and purchased the kit. My reason for being drawn to it is that I don't wear makeup (but probably should), and I have very sensitive skin. It was a DIS-AS-TER. I experienced the weird itching Melissa of Delush describes and ultimately ended up at the dermatologist with a raging case of perioral dermatitis (trust me, ick), which required TWO rounds of antiobiotics to kill. The doc said it was likely from the high amounts of sunscreen.
I have to say that I did like the way the maekup looked on my face. It evened out my skin tone, covered freckles, etc., and it "felt" lightweight. BUT, you know, the raging rash of course negated all of that.
The kicker? When I contacted the company via phone and multiple emails, no one would talk to me about it. I couldn't get my money back. I couldn't complain about it. Nothing. No responses to emails. Shuffled around on the phone and ultimately disconnected. So disappointing.
If you have sensitive skin, I'd say steer clear! And even if you don't? My experience with the company and their unwillingness to stand behind their product says a lot about them.
So I suppose the consensus is not to use Bare Escentuals...? Or I guess use it with caution. QVC definately over plays it and then there are the infomercials for it...I should've known it wouldn't be all it's cracked up to be.
I have melted!
Yay - cute cute cute baby pics and a critique of idiots who try to be clever with their spelling! (I friggin' HATE that, and my brother-in-law calls the technique "Klassy with a K" while making a K with his fingers.)
Happy Wednesday!
P.S. Krispy Kreme gets an exemption from the hate because oh, the love!! That is all.
Can I have just one small gobble please?
I let a girl at the mall apply that Bare Escentuals junk on my face. A half an hour later, my pores appeared to be the size of dinner plates. Ick!
But oh, Noah. He is so, so precious. He looks like he's asking for someone to give him a raspberry.
I've actually been using Bare Escentuals for about 4 years now, and I love it! I have combination skin, and it evens everything out really nicely. It also feels really good, I think--not heavy like liquid foundation, but it covers blemishes nicely. And I don't know what you people are talking about, it's not hard to put on!
My mom uses it too, and she has very dry skin, so I always thought it worked for everybody. Hmm. Maybe I'm in the minority here?
I smell an assvice debate coming on.
P.S. Noah? Way too adorable. I have not seen a smile that big EVER! so cute!
such an adorable little guy! I say post a pic after every paragraph! Or pics of him next the products!
I just bought the Starter Kit last week. I used it once then put it away until I finish the last of my Lancome foundation (because I'm all thrifty that way). From my one use I'm concerned that it's not going to provide enough coverage. Because? I have the undereye circles of the undead. And? I suspect that mineral foundation plus concealer is going to be a Very Bad Look. I DO like the "Skin Revver-Upper" lotion that came in the kit, though, and am using it daily.
He's so adorable! I love his smile - he's going to be a heartbreaker!
Just a comment about the Bare Escenscuals... I use just the powder foundation with normal Clinique concealer, good sunscreen, NARS powder, etc., etc. etc. and I love it! Great coverage that feels light, especially in the terrible central Texas heat/humidity. I have very sensitive, acne-prone skin and have been using mineral foundation for several years (had been using Glo Minerals, available only at my derm., but going to Sephora is SO much more fun). Anyway, for my sensitive skin, mineral foundation is just so much better than anything else.
The baby? Smiling? Quite nice.
Noah is truly the most BEAUTIFUL baby in the world !!!!
oops, make that NARS blush. but whatever.
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, he is SO adorable!
I too use Bare Escentuals. I have oily-sensitive skin and this is the only product that covers my pores, helps with oil control, and doesn't "feel" like makeup. I do agree with some of the other posters in that I don't like the mineral veil (made me itch) or blush (not so much glitter as just didn't work as good as Nars Orgasm). Finally (then I promise to hop down off my soap box) I don't think it is that hard to apply. The first few applications were tricky, but after a while I got the hang of it, and now it takes no time at all.
Hope this helps :)
Beth
First off, love the Noah pics, he is such a happy baby!
On to Bare Escentuals. I am not a makeup-y person, at all. I like routines that are quick and easy. I also have never been into wearing foundation, EVER. That said, I am in love with BE! It provides decent coverage (fairly light, but I don't like a real makeup-y look, nor do I like to feel anything heavy on my skin), and it lasts a long time. The shadows are great, and very versatile, my only complaint is that by the end of a long day, the shadow is always stuck in the creases of my eyelids. But that is to be expected w/ any shadow after a 16 hour day, no?
I sampled it at Sephora, and I think I put on too much. It did make my skin look *flawless*, though. I have a dark pink spot above the bridge of my nose that is impossible to cover up- it's like 3/4" in diameter. This stuff covered it beautifully. But did I go back and buy it? No. I can't say exactly why, but it just felt strange. Again, I think I applied too much. I may give it another shot next year.
Oh-ho-hoh, little Noah, your onesie says Cuddly and YES YOU ARE! Beauty talk AND smiley baby pics? That's like eating cheesecake with ice cream on the side.
Give your fella a few extra gagillion hugs for all of us out here. xx
Yikes! I forgot about the baby! I like the top photo, where he has a very sly smile. That's going to get him far in life. If he can beat the ladies back, that is.
Oh my zeus, a value-added twofer. I get my newborn toofless grin fix without having to procreate and change diapers (been there, done that, depleted my lifetime maternal solicitude rations) AND amalah and her Trusty Correspondents saved me from the Bare Escentuals vortex. (I, too, reject on principle any products that try to lure me in with cutesy misspellings, but the 1 a.m. BE infomercial force was nearly overwhelming.)
Such yummy photos!
I have sensitive skin, and love BE - including the mineral veil. One trick I learned is to get it from e-bay. Great prices, and you can get samples for a minimum price.
This is like the Ultimate Fighting Champion of blog posts - the combination of Smackdown and gummy baby smiles are lethal.
Also: Waaaah, I wish there was a Sephora near me... I'm pretty sure the nearest one is in London (read: NOT near), and I know there's tons of them in France, but alas, my city isn't sophisticated for the Sephora love. Next time I'm in France, though, I'll be the wild-eyed Crazy, high from a Sephora frenzy.
"That's like eating cheesecake with ice cream on the side." Plus, no calories!!!
I'm with RealGirl.
Okay...seriously. Noah? Is so cute that my ovaries are KILLING. ME. How do you manage to do anything but harass and pinch and gobble him all damn day?
Now, on to Bare Escentuals. I ordered the starter kit in a cold medicine induced haze one day when I was home sick. I was, for the most part, pleasantly surprised. I think that using it as a concealer worked best for me, I've never been a foundation kind of girl, I stick to a mattifier and a pressed powder combo kind of thing. I did run out of the powder and haven't gotten around to buying more yet so I guess I didn't love it THAT much. Now the mineral veil stuff...I really do love love love that. And I also love the eye shadows, they go on VERY smooth. Plus I use that cute little kabuki brush with all my powder. Its kind of fun.
Adorable baby.
I really like Bare Escentuals (hate the spelling). I have dry, sensitive skin, so I have to be careful not to use too much.
I truly don't know how you get anything done -- he is downright edible!!! Do me a favor and plant some sweet kisses on his neck, then sniff that yummy baby breath for me. YUM!!!! (My sweeties, who were once that small, are now 11 & 13 -- sniff sniff. . .)
so am i the only one out there that totally thinks Amalah should have her own advice column about beauty care? the style section on washingtonpost.com perhaps to start?
How to score tons of free samples at Sephora in two easy steps:
1) Be a guy.
2) Actually care about your skin.
Not a trip goes by that doesn't end with a salesperson shoving handfuls of samples in my bag, all without me asking. It's like trick-or-treating! Meanwhile, my ladyfriends have to scrape and claw for every sample.
It would be hilarious if it wasn't for the "what makes YOU so special?!" looks the aforementioned ladyfriends shoot me for the rest of the day...
Dang, that boy is adorable! It almost makes me want to have my own real-life babies...almost.
Anyway, I have not tried anything other than the eye makeup remover from Bare Escentuals and I am here to say that it sucks. It actually burns and I don't even have sensitive eyes or anything that would explain the burning.
Two things:
One (and most important) Noah is so! Cute! Oh my goodness, what a sweet baby! With sweet baby smiles! Gotta love it...
Two: I tried BE. Granted,I did it wrong cuz all I bought was the powder without the mineral veil, and was then told that the mineral veil is the WHOLE POINT! But two anythings on my face? Too much for for moi. So I tried the powder and wasn't impressed at all. It looked like nothing.
I'll stick with my MAC studio fix NW 15, thank you very much.
~Paige
I'm a BE junkie too. (And I also use Swheat Scoop. And I cringe every time I see the spelling on either of those packages because dammit, they are both awesome for me, why must they have lame names?) Anyway, I'm a combo/fair/hate wearing makeup type of person and this stuff is just perfect for me...takes me maybe 10-15 minutes to do my entire makeup routine (from primer to the last swipe of mascara) and I am makeup retarded so either I'm putting it on wrong or the application process is easier than advertised. (And I use the all-over face color as blush, because it's sheer enough to just make my skin pop a little more, despite the glittery sheen; I cover it with a layer of the mineral veil).
And now I am shutting up, because this is not my Advice Smackdown.
I agree that black is wedding appropriate. I wore black to a friend's wedding last summer, [in silent protest of her loser fiance'] but even if I was there in happy spirits, noone looked at me funny. As for a formal wedding, I would expect people to wear black or another 'serious' color, as neon orange dresses, by law, are only formal in Vegas.
Women used to get married in black in this country until after 1900. They usually had a "Sunday" fancy dress that they wore to get married in as well.
One wedding I went to had the bridesamaids in these totaly cute black knee length cocktail dresses. They looked smashing! I'm just glad someone is actually wearing a dress to a wedding - nobody dresses up anymore!
Thanks for the baby photos!! He is a doll!
And now that everyone has already added their two cents, I will add mine anyhow, because I am special.
I like Bare Escentuals. It is a rather complicated application process, but worth it (most days). The coverage is decent, without looking make-up-y. I totally forget I'm wearing make-up with it on... and I'm talking about the Foundation. The Warmth? Go easy - good for contouring, if you're into that sort of thing. Mineral Veil? FORGET IT! Worthless... if you used the entire line you will feel like you've added a layer of disgusting to your face, and you will LOOK like you've added a layer of disgusting to your face.
I think the thing everyone is blaming for being too glittery is the "Radiance"... which is actually quite nice, but you have to be careful to use the proper brush, you cannot use the same one you used for the foundation, and it's not really blush, so please still use blush.
But, yeah... they do make blush, which I haven't tried, and maybe that's what y'all are talking about, so maybe I should shut up. And I will.
When Noah smiles he looks like you.
Noah perfects his nonchalant, picking-up-chicks head toss in that last photo.
I have attended approximately 30 weddings in the last three years (fo' real) and I wore black to each and every one of them. I only own black dresses. The bridesmaids at my wedding wore black halter floor-length dresses (which were so stunning, I wanted one for myself. We bought them at Marshall Fields because I insisted on having dresses they could wear again. I called them my sexy bridesmaid dresses, and damn if they weren't).
Where was I? Oh yes, thank you acknowledging my need for the birth story, part deux. Those few details you revealed make me want more more MORE because it sounds like some high comedy.
LOVE the little baby cheeks! So kissable... watch out ladies!
As for the black to a wedding... I really don't see the problem, cliche coming.. everyone is doing it! If you really feel bad about the color, partner it with a pretty wrap in a bright color or silver or something sparkly and happy. You can always use a wrap for other dress functions and you haven't spent more money than the bride!
So great to live in CA where you can wear pretty much anything, in any color, to any event. Helps to have been raised by midwesterners so I know what to wear when I have to attend something out of town, though.
Thirds on the calorie-free cheesecake and ice cream thing with the pics. That smile is to die! What a honey!
Okay, two guys named Chris comment on makeup on a site where the majority of commenters are female. What have I gotten myself into?
Anyway, here's a male's take on the BE line. My wife loves (loaves!) it. She too is of the mixed complexion/oily skin and has good results with it. Her must have product is Multi-Tasking Minerals - Bisque. She too suffers from the dreaded eye-luggage and likes what this concealer does for her.
As for my personal tastes - the only real experience I've had with makup is of the stage variety which is a little thicker and heavier than your average street walker, so I thought the BE stuff didn't even feel like I was wearing makeup. And stop snickering - it was for our wedding pictures.
The drawback? Our white bathroom countertops (thank you whoever built our apartment) eventually take on a tanish color if she doesn't lay a towel down when applying makup. We didn't even realize how bad it was until we wiped the counter and realized that the counters looked fine because they matched the walls. And the walls are cream.
Although, it was kind of like the white strips commercial - "Garunteed to lighten your counters up to three shades in just two weeks!" or the minute that it takes to wipe off a counter, whichever comes first.
And I don't know how to spell "guaranteed".
And I was serious about how much she likes the bisque. I think she eats it when I'm not looking.
I looooove BE. Conventional foundation always looks cakey on me for some reason. BE (I use the Mineral Veil first, then the foundation, because it helps with my huge pores) helps my skin look great.
Also - anyone saying QVC doesn't take returns or won't return phone calls? All you have to do is slap their built-in return label on the package and dump it in the mail with the slip. Don't even have to speak to a warm body :).
Amalah!!! an entry with a comments box!! finally!! :) i have spent nearly the past 3 weeks reading your archives (i started reading you only a few days before Noahalah was born, so i had alot of catching up to do). and there were lots of things i wanted to comment on, in alot of posts. but, i enjoyed reading about everything from the beginning until now. you've made tons of people smile with your sad/happy/hyper/tourette-ish posts, and we thank you for that. the fate of all on the Bunny Trail lies in your hands :P
you are a riot. and noah is too cute with that smile.
i am jealous that noah seems to have a neck, whereas my baby does not, which makes it a bitch to clean him up every time he spits up.
Posting again because that last photo wins the all time Great Expressions Ever award. Another *priceless* shot.
It's so bizarre that you talked about that Bare Escentuals stuff today. I woke up to the sounds of the BE infomercial this morning. (Leeetle insomnia issue, finally passed out on the couch w/ the TV on. Sigh.) The first thing I thought? "Wonder if Amalah has an opinion on that stuff??" Not only do I need to find a way to get to sleep at night, I need to get a life and get off the internet. Feh.
Bring on the Birthing Story Part II !! ....
I have several weddings to attend in the near future. If the occasion is a cocktail hour shindig, or is just held at night - seems the dress is going to be black tie or black tie optional ... so go with black! Live it up, play it up! with some shiny funky accessories, because, why not ?