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Life. Too Boring for Words.


Last night Jason and I were snacking on some cheese -- the stinky, ooky, weirdo cheeses that scare everybody else but oh God, I could eat an entire wheel, hell, I could build a car out of them and then eat all four wheels -- and Noah came over and asked for some. He signed cheese, over and over, and would not accept our explanation that this was probably not the kind of cheese he'd like. He insisted, so Jason gave him a bite.

He gingerly touched it to his tongue, and then promptly handed it back to Jason.

"Yuck," he said, clear as day.

I wonder when we'll stop celebrating every word. When we'll just nod and shrug and go on with our meal instead of pumping our fists in the air and laughing, like holy crap, did you just hear that? I wonder when I'll move him out of the "speech-delayed, present tense" and into the "speech-delayed, past tense, can you believe this kid used to ever not talk?", and when I'll stop flinching when strangers ask him questions he can't answer (What's your name? How old are you? You must be talkin' up a storm these days, huh?) and when family members ask me what sign he's making for the millionth time.

He's catching up, bit by bit and word by word. I feel like he's the least speech-delayed kid in early intervention -- like we already have no business being there anymore, OT issues aside -- but I still can't quite shake the worry that he's still not quite where he "should" be. Even though I honestly don't even know where, exactly, that is.

Four months ago, before the "diagnosis" and signing and speech therapy, he had five words, maybe six. Today, as of right now, including "hurt" which he just said for the first time five minutes ago, he has 71. I know that because I've written each and every one down. I wonder when I'll stop doing that too, like I did with the list of signs when I realized that he basically knew every sign on every DVD.

I'm ready to let go of the labels and the worry. I'm even ready to let go of the lists.

But I'm not ready to stop the celebrating.


I kind of hope I never will.



You know Michael is so not delayed, but we still celebrate each word. Yesterday he said, "Moomy, what are we doing next," and I was like next, next, when did you learn next?

GO NOAH AND AMY!!!!! I can't wait to hear him talk.


You can't stop celebrating... it's worth celebrating.

jive turkey

71 and counting...that's amazing. Way to go!


Celebrate away. Every word is a big deal. My six-year-old is one of those past tense speech-delayed why-won't-he-ever-shut-up-now kids. And I still celebrate the incredible things that come out of his mouth. It's amazing to hear what's going on in their heads.


My daughter doesn't have a speech delay and I celebrate each and every word she says, its worth the celebration!!


woo hoo!
...we'll keep celebrating with you - even if he's thirteen and completely mastered the English language. Or when he's nineteen and writes a novel with 47,622 *different* words in it, not to mention the words he knew but didn't use - we'll keep celebrating.


Every morning is a good reason to celebrate! Thanks for sharing your kiddo with us.

(note: topic for discussion - your toughts, as a writer, on the strike in Hollywood??)


I must delurk to say that not all children respond to questions/comments from adults. You're sensitive to this because of Noah's speech delays, but children of all ages often don't speak when spoken to. They may be shy, uncertain of what/how to reply, or not minding their manners. Just because Noah doesn't answer some stranger's question doesn't mean they are thinking, "what is wrong with that child!?!"

If you don't want to get into his lack of reply, you can always say, "oh he's feeling shy right now". Believe me, my girls are by no means shy, but they don't always answer. I'm working on this with my older daughter, and she says that she often just isn't quite sure what to say, so she doesn't say anything.

I will leave you with the words of the immortal Kool & the Gang, "Celebrate good times, come on!" ha now you will all have that in your head all day long!


hi - i read your blog allt he time -- for almost 2 years now. And my son is only a couple months older than Noah, and he is not talking as much ... so I am thinking bring on the sign language... but where do I get it? I live in Canada so any help would be great -- thanks!

Mommy of two boys - including a Noah!

My second son didn't talk forever and then it came little by little - now at 3, we can't get him to stop. I'm so happy for you that Noah is talking more and more. 71 words at his age is HUGE -- considering he can also sign. What a reason to celebrate!


I hope you don't stop celebrating either. Congrats on 71 words (and counting)!


Dude! Keep on celebrating! Seriously- that's what makes life fun- and the size of the accomplishment does not matter, though new words qualify as HUGELY AWESOME in my book.
I love that you're keeping track of every word- I think it's wonderful. :)


Awesome! And I'm so glad you've shared his progress with all of us--we're proud of him, too!


When will you stop celebrating every single word?? When he's 13-going-on-35 and he talks so much that your ears bleed!! (Not that I would know this from personal experience, or anything)............


Your blog makes me want to get on the baby-train. Difficulties and hassles aside, you manage to extol all the virtues of your wonderful boy. It's all worth it, yeah? Thank you for your wonderful writing, and YAHOO NOAH! Keep up the good work!


One of the best things about being a mom - is that you never have to stop celebrating. We celebrate a silly number of firsts, we celebrate smiles & hugs, we celebrate school work & athletics. It never matters if our child is the "best" at anything - we celebrate each and every one of their accomplishments - from tiny ones like finally learning to multiply 9's to big ones like graduating from High School.

I'm sure you've got a lot of celebrating a head of you yet.


My daughter is three and came home from Russia to live with us when she was two. Within days of getting off the plane, she went mute. I panicked and took her to many many evaluators/audiologists/EISers, etc., only for people to say that she would certainly be delayed for years to come in her speech, as, well, she speaks Russian. Okay. That makes sense. One doctor warned me not to be surprised if, when she spoke, she spoke in a full sentence. I thought, I will carry around the camcorder tape it for posterity. I mean, surely the sentence would be "I love you, Mom, and have you lost 20 lbs recently?" or something equally endearing to her new brothers or Daddy.

Three silent months later, she looked up in her crib, banged her hand on the side of it, and said, fairly clearly

"Stop It Momma".

And she has been telling me where to stick it ever since.

Katie (long time reader, first time poster, I think. Wanna hear a funny? My pediatrician told me about your blog. We are in TN.)


Celebrate it! It's your parental right! And let us know when he says damn (or any other variation thereof). You know that's just around the corner. :)


Seriously, you never will tire of it! I have two kids that are 6 years apart, and it's just as thrilling everytime they do soemthing new!!!


Just another one popping in to say: I don't think you should ever stop celebrating. Noah is fantastic and amazing and special and and and... You have every right to be excited about this.

Miss Britt

When? Well, MAYBE when he says "le fuck?" But the again, maybe not. :-)

Lisa M

Keep celebrating!! He is such a wonderful human being and it literally brought tears to my eyes to read this, this morning! I wrote down all the words my kids learned when they first started talking because it's such a HUGE deal. And it should be. Your son is just amazing and he needs you to encourage him every step of the way!


my heart just exploded in a gooey, mushy mess. Thanks.

No, really. Thanks :*


Every single new thing, triumph, quirky pronunciation, discovery and even moment is special and incredible.


Hi all,
Can someone post the link to the sign language site that you could pick a word and it displayed how to do the sign? I can't seem to locate it. Thank you!


Nor should you ever be.

I continue to be thrilled when my eighteen-year-old son manages to hit the toilet bowl.

I cannot possibly overstate how much I love how you write.


You will never, ever stop celebrating. And you never should.


Our son, now almost 12, had a horrible stutter from the time he could string words together, which, for him, was actually early, until he was nearly 6. The therapists warned we may never quite eradicate the problem, and I agonized over the first punk 4 year old that would notice his so pronounced stutter, and make fun. I was ready to pummel said child. Anyway, back on point, the sound and the therapy was agonizing. And the stutter didn't bother our son one small bit. Didn't stop him from talking. all. day. long. Which, believe it or not, coming from your perspective and "issues" with your son, was hard when it was so painfully broken, and painstakingly slow, as he started over. and over. and over. again. Then one day, it eased. And on another, we noticed it was gone. And now when we hear the tapes and videos of that dear, sweet little voice, we nearly cry, for the love of it. It is the sound of our boy. In all his stuttering glory. We wouldn't trade it for the world, and occasionally, when that big lanky, stinky feet, lug is extra tired, or under some sort of stress or nerves (he's almost my height!), he'll get caught up a bit at the start of a word. And my husband and I just glance and each other and smile. That's *our* boy. Your attitude is great. Keep celebrating.

Heather B.

How apropos, I must tell you of the dream that I had last night where he told me something that almost made me cry, clear as day.

And so you know, I'm over here celebrating with you.


I wonder if a speech therapist would consider Kaitlyn speech-delayed? She turns two on the 18th, and I know she doesn't say 71 words. And she is completely shy in front of strangers-she won't say anything to anyone she doesn't know. AND, she can't say her name. She calls herself "baby", and when you try to get her to say Kaitlyn, she won't even attempt it. Should I be worried?


I kept lists of every new word My Kid said, and he talked right on time. Keep counting, baby, you have a lot to be grateful for.


We're past listing now...but still, quite often, we celebrate...or say "Did you hear that?!" I don't know that we'll ever quite make it back to taking it for granted.


You'll never stop celebrating - that's one of the best parts of being a Mom :)


When my oldest was a little guy, although he chattered like a monkey, no one could understand a single syllable of it except for me. And I could only understand every fifth syllable.

Unless he was talking about dinosaurs.

He could pronounce names that I still can't.

He'd be all, "mumble,mumble, yada yada, Euoplocepheles, mumble"

And I'd be all, what the fuck Dude? You can't say 'I gotta poop' but you can say Euoplocepheles??

Except I totally did not say the word 'fuck' to my kid.

Well, until he was teenager, anyway.


Maggie - we use

Mama T

The cheese thing? Even though Noah didn't like it, it's great that he wanted to try it. Ben always offers everything we eat to our kids because he figures they should decide if they do or don't like it. I have to catch myself from making up their minds for them.
And my 4 year old still won't answer people when they ask her what her name.


If you're not celebrating his words, you may find something else to celebrate. And I hope you will let us continue to celebrate with you. He's worth it. Congrats!


Yay for Noah!

I can't wait for the day when you're all "hey, internet, remember when my kid didn't talk much and now he can't shut up?"

Here's to celebrating so many more things for Noah!


it occurred to me in one of your recent posts that you'd almost reached a goal that a few months ago you were anly dreaming about: you said to noah "stop saying no so much." and i know it's only one word, but he must hace been using it up a storm.

i had a little moment, after i read that.
i was all: we're nearly there!

and then the language-major geek in me (way too much time spent in the linguistics classroom) was all: wait, he switched to 'on' instead? he is clearly a genius.

and also irresistable to bears. and women all over the internet.

yet another from the legions of Amys

Speech delayed or not, every new thing is a celebration. I have a running list of the 106 words that my daughter says and each one is exciting. I don't know when I'll stop either--I guess when I can't keep up anymore.


hey, just think you'll look back on this entry and say.."wow, yeah I haven't written down any word he's said in a long long time" because then he'll bombard you with words like "why??" "why??" and oh yeah.."why???"


I think it's so cool that you write down every word.

And this would be why God gives us the contrasts, the struggles. Would the celebration, the joy, the relief be as sweet any other way? What a gift to know the scary side - and that you are not on it anymore.


we haven't stopped. you won't either. go, noah!


Right there with you -- still celebrating all of Rosie's new words and new skills (last night she took two of her birdie toys and had them chat with one another!!) but still keeping an eye on the stuff that concerns me, like her obvious lack of interest in other kids.

But definitely -- the celebrating is much more fun than the other.

Amy H

that is so awesome. so happy for all of you that Noah is catching on so fast. He is probably thinking, "damn, this word thing is really great!"

We celebrate every word of Avery's. I wonder the same thing...when will we stop...and I hope the same thing...hopefully never.


I've got those same lists! (well, not exactly the same, but probably very similar). While my kiddo still has significant speech issues, I look back on those lists and now think...woa...I don't think I can even count the number of words and signs he has anymore. They become a great marker of where you have been.

Celebrate on!


Even better- you can celebrate with cheese!

So happy that he's progressing so well. It's so freeing when they can actually communicate with you, instead of whining and fussing nonstop. So much to be thankful for!


yay! keep celebrating! he's worth it!


My son was just "diagnosed" and I celebrate all words (well, the ones I can understand). And he just signed "more" twice yesterday. I just did an official post about our diagnosis if you want to check it out.

Barb in Ohio

We were in the car on the way to the mall and Cameron (4yrs old, speech delayed) said clear-as-a-bell "TUMMY HURTS".

I was so excited that he actually told me how he felt that I didn't notice that he had vomited until a few minutes later and the smell got bad.

I pulled over and stared to clean him up, and he said "MUCH BETTER"--I did a little happy dance in the parking lot.

Keep celebrating! I know I am!


Nope, you won't ever stop celebrating because there will always be new things to celebrate. Even when he's 8 years old (or older). The celebration continues. :)



Thank you for the link!



I'm used to your writing talent by now....but I am still celebrating every beautiful post.


Recently a lot of my friends children (I dont have any of my own) are experiencing speech delays. And Ive noticed a trend. All of the children with speech delays, used those signing DVDs and TV shows. Im wondering if the learning to sign is what caused the delay? Like they figure they can communicate with their hands, so why use words? Just a thought.


We will be right here celebrating along with you :) I think it's time for a video showcase of all these new words (if he cooperates, I know often they won't. Just to make you look silly :P)



My oldest was born with tongue-tie. Well, to be honest, all three were born with it (thank you, husband, for that particular gene), but my oldest was the only who had a stoopid pediatrician who chirped, "We don't need to clip it! That's barbaric! He can drink from a bottle, what are you worrying about!"

Fast forward two years and A. is having a very hard time making even momma understand what he's saying. He says "nater" for water, and various other letter mispronunciations, and it's obvious every word is a struggle. Through time, and exercises, he's gotten better. He still has issues with soft sounds, but his dentist (who is an expert on tongue tie) says it's "not as bad as it could be."

And when he turned five I realized he'd gone from "nater" to "n-water" to "water". And we baked a cake.

So yes, celebrate. We celebrate every time our three year old says "No thanks" instead of "I don't WANT THAT!"

Kate The Great

You never have to stop celebrating! I'm 21, married and having a baby of my own, and my mom still celebrates my accomplishments, big and small. She's my biggest fan =D

GO NOAH! (BTW, He is SO adorable)

(And now I'm teary eyed. Again ;)


Knowing you & Jason, I bet Noah probably will bust out with words like "beurre blanc" and "pan seared" soon.

At least try to teach him "pinot grigio".

Mmmmm....pinot grigio....


And someday Bossy hopes you'll cautiously celebrate this Noah sentence: "It'll be OK mom, it's only college."


I agree with Noah on the yuck. And I agree with you on the celebrating :) I just hope his new word doesn't appear on a regular basis!

Kelly J



Like Jodi said in the very first comment.... Zoe was not delayed with her speech in any way. I have no idea how many words she uses... but every time we hear a new word out of her mouth it causes excitement.

Burgh Baby's Mom

Keep on celebrating!

I so, so love Signing Time. We started using the DVDs with our little one at 6 months, despite the fact that my mother-in-law swore she would never talk if she learned to sign. Every time she says a new word (or sentence!), I feel the need to rub it in. Since that's kind of mean, instead I show her posts like yours that talk about how speech therapists RECOMMEND Signing Time to get the ball rolling.

Just wait until Noah starts singing the songs. He will and it will be the cutest thing you ever heard. Promise.


tonight my son said, "Coke"

let me tell you how proud i was.


i also just wanted to direct a comment toward missy above. amy & jason didn't start using signing time until AFTER they learned that Noah was speech delayed. It has HELPED, and not harmed. I wish we'd done the same.



Because I'm a weirdo, I keep a list of Alex's words, motor skills, and cognitive skills. I think that no matter what, all of those amazing little brain connections are worth celebrating. It's really cool stuff.

Go, Noah!


I've casually read about your life from before you became pregnant and for all the obvious reasons that I can't even list, this last entry nearly brought me to tears.

They are tears of the struggle you have been through. From trying to get pregnant, through the pregnancy, raising a new born, seeing your child grow and learn and the success from a single word said "as clear as day"


We went through a period where our son basically got anything he asked for, just because we were so ecstatic that he was making intelligible requests.


Way to go, Noah!


ARGH. The "just a thought" people.

Like Alissa said -- we didn't sign with Noah until he was already diagnosed as delayed. I actually had a ton of (blog documented) attitude towards baby sign language. But it was the first thing our pede recommended, even before contacting Early Intervention.

Sign language CHANGED. OUR. LIFE. 99% of the words he says are also words he has the sign for. It connected the dots, honestly, in his brain. He gets WHY he should talk and sign and try.

I cannot recommend the Signing Time series highly enough. Not only is my boy talking, he's talking in two languages, thanks to ASL. There is no way we'd be at 73 words (two more words today!! head and cheese) (headcheese! ewww!) without the sign language. I really believe that.


I say party on.

Celebrating is the perk of being a parent that we should never give up.


Stop making me cry. Just stop already. Much appreciated.

Now back to my Breyer's.


Stop making me cry. Just stop already. Much appreciated.

Now back to my Breyer's.


Don't ever quit celebrating the miracle that is your child. He is a wonderful little being and I enjoy him so very much. You take such great pictures of him and you guys together and describe him so clearly, I almost feel like I'm there, too. I appreciate you and I appreciate your willingness to share with us, and I'm very glad to have "met" you, Noah, and Jason - very very glad.


What's not to celebrate? The kid doesn't like cheese that smells like dirty feet. I don't either. That makes him "A-OK" in my book.


What's not to celebrate? The kid doesn't like cheese that smells like dirty feet. I don't either. That makes him "A-OK" in my book.


Celebrate EVERYTHING! (Then video tape it so you can celebrate it later, too! At least, that's what I do...). :)

As a speech-language pathologist, I'm curious... What was his official diagnosis? (Sorry if you posted that in an earlier entry--I'm new to your blog).


One day. if you are like me, you will stop and gasp because you just heard yourself say " Noah...PLEASE be quiet!" When I said that to ISaac I stopped in my tracks and got a bit weepy, then we would say " Isaac, we're going to have to have a word with Beverly ( speech therapist) because do you EVER stop talking??"
It is incredible and I thank my lucky stars every day that we got to enjoy such enormous joy from something that was so taken for granted with my other babies.

Mama V

Hi Amy,
I'm delurking... I just spent the better part of 3 work days reading all of your archives and now I'm up to date. I have to say I think you're an amazing writer, wife, and mother! Just a thought... have you read Sophie Kinsella's Shopaholic series? You are SO Becky Bloomwood!! When I was reading your archives, I kept having to remind myself that I wasn't back reading the series again!
On a more serious note, though... keep celebrating! As a mom, you celebrate every last little detail... remember when Noah was teensy weensy and you'd celebrate that his poop was a different colour? At least this celebration doesn't involve bocily fluids!

Mama V

Hi Amy,
I'm delurking... I just spent the better part of 3 work days reading all of your archives and now I'm up to date. I have to say I think you're an amazing writer, wife, and mother! Just a thought... have you read Sophie Kinsella's Shopaholic series? You are SO Becky Bloomwood!! When I was reading your archives, I kept having to remind myself that I wasn't back reading the series again!
On a more serious note, though... keep celebrating! As a mom, you celebrate every last little detail... remember when Noah was teensy weensy and you'd celebrate that his poop was a different colour? At least this celebration doesn't involve bodily fluids!


I am in love with that shirt. Seriously. Where did you get it?


Came back today, thinking about your boy's accomplishments. I had remembered something I found when our son was struggling...

"Famous late talkers

When you're tired of being asked when your child is going to talk, remember that these successful people didn't begin talking until they were at least 2 — and, in some cases, 4!

Gary Becker, Nobel Prize-winning economist
Albert Einstein
Julia Robinson, the first woman president of the American Mathematical Society
Arthur Rubinstein, piano virtuoso
Edward Teller, physicist and nuclear power pioneer"

and, if you'll excuse this if it is as*vice, or if you are all "d'oh, does she think I don't research these things myself?",

"A remarkable book is available for parents of children who talk late. It is written by Thomas Sowell, a distinguished economist at Stanford University. He has a son who talked very late and yet is quite gifted. It turns out that the phenomenon of late talking in persons (especially boys) who turn out to be normal to gifted in ability is not that uncommon. A number of very famous and gifted persons - including Albert Einstein - were late talkers. Dr. Sowell studied everything he could find about late talking children, collected case histories from parents of similar children, and wrote a book chronicling his experiences and the experiences of other parents. If you or someone you know has a child who is a very late talker, but otherwise seems developmentally normal, this book is a must read. Late Talking Children, Thomas Sowell"

And finally, just because I don't want to go start breakfast, kudos on the sign, and enough already to the "just a thought-ers"...we also did sign, and it was a Godsend. Loved it loved it loved it. Yes. It helps put all the stuff together in their brains, and keeps major frustration at bay. Now, I'll go.


btw, how are the Tuesdays off going?



Good news indeed! :)


I think you should keep on writing down his words until he's full grown, and then when he graduates from Harvard Law, you can stand up and scream out the word count.


My sons were not late talkers (sometimes the grass does look greener, though) yet I methodically logged each new word as it arrived. When my second began talking I was so glad I had been obsessive about logging the first's words because I had a happy comparison sheet. Interesting that one son's first word was "bye-bye" and the other's first word was "Greg".


What a sweetie! Like you said, before you know it you'll be asking him to take a "time-out" from talking....


I understand the cringing, speech delay is no fun, the strangers can't help it, they don't know any better, but you wish your family would treat him like a normal kid. You get tired of being on the defensive for your child all the time. As for the word list, maybe 100 is a good round number to stop at?


Amazing to me that someone would say something like "I bet you talk up a storm" to a TWO YEAR OLD. Good grief! TWO! He's a baby!

Someday you are going to laugh so hard about this even being a concern. This is one smart kid. Even without the words, he grasps a lot of concepts not even considered by kids a lot older. The only way you're going to keep him from talking is with duct tape.

But go on and celebrate. He deserves to be celebrated, every day. And so do you and Jason.


P.S. My boss, an attorney, also has a child who is speech delayed. He's 4 now and has been in some sort of speech therapy and play therapy for over a year. Know what? She still keeps the list of his words on her directory on our computer server.


I just read bits from you blog. Outstanding! My son sounds just like your son. They figured out he has a manipulation issue with his tongue. At 2.5 he started talking more. Now at 3, well he'll never be the great verbal communicator (that's his wife's problem).


it will be really an icrediably funny post on his first curse word.
(hopefully there will be thousands of others first!)



"wait, no, um bad, well good that you have a new word, but... crap."


On the topic of naughty words. . . if Noah says something that sounds like f*ck, he's probably ACTUALLY saying "truck." Apparently a lot of kids have trouble with that one. Imagine how funny it is when they try to say "dumptruck" . . .

But I still cringe whenever we're out, and my son sees a truck, and he starts yelling, "F*ck! F*ck!" Because, see, he keeps repeating the word until we tell him yes, indeed, that is a TRUCK.

Burgh Baby's Mom

I'm with you, Amalah. I 100% credit sign language for my daughter figuring out that words get you things. She did it pretty early by the usual standards and I don't think she would have without Signing Time.

Sadly, I don't think I can blame Rachel for teaching her to say, "No way," "Sexy," or "Maneater." Damn radio.


(Shirt is from Target. Good God, how many times have I typed that in the comments here. Heh.)


Everytime I see a picture of him from the angle all I can think is how it's no wonder he's irresistible to bears.


Beautiful sentiment. Bravo. You and your family are lovely - thank you for sharing them with us.

Generic comment, I suppose, but still - I had to say it.

Your boy has nearly *edible* cheeks!


You'll never stop celebrating because it never gets old. Just wait until the catchphrases come, and then multi-sentence descriptions, and then the conversations... and the reading! Oh, the reading is fabulous!


I used to keep track of Arun's words, too. Once, someone acted like I being overly anal retentive to which I replied "How else will I know if he is on track?" It was really very helpful to be able to tell my Parents As Teachers educator exactly how many words Arun had so that we could keep on top of his progress. His expressive language skills were something that we were keeping an eye on since he had not been such a rockstar in that area until recently.

It sounds like you have hit a language explosion, too - very exciting! And I am very happy for you. :-)


wow, I don't know how I got from an internet search on Nuk brushes to here, but I did and I'm so glad - it must be in one of the replies about Speech Therapy, unless someone was using it to stir that Halloween punch.
List of reasons I will keep coming back:
-I am a speech therapist for kids under the age of five and help parents keep lots of word lists :) BTW, most of them seem to quit listing at 100 words or when they get lots of different two word combos, but you keep on as long as you want I like the college graduation idea.
-I know so many kids who love their f*cks and so many parents who are desperate for me to "please just fix that one word".
- I appreciate stinky cheese
- I appreciate the morning after puke. My personal record is still puking at 5pm the next day. Have you ever been to Beaver Island Michigan and closed the bar? Don't.
-We have all parented from the couch, and have a constitutional right to do so at least one day per month.
- Your boy with bedhead is incredibly beautiful.
- I think it's important for me to remember that when I tell parent that their child needs speech therapy, there is a whole other conversation going on in their head. Thank You.

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