No Day Like Today

Meaningless Milestones

We upgraded Noah to a "big kid" booster seat this weekend. It did not go well. It is not going well. I'm not surprised -- honestly, the last time I bought him new SOCKS did not go particularly well either -- but there was no getting around it. Had to be done. Ezra's toes are hanging over the edge of his infant seat and I've been willfully ignoring that fact for a couple weeks and will continue to do for a little while longer, since I need Noah to finally accept the New Seat before the Old Seat reappears with the New Baby in it, lest the Old Baby decide don't know. Throw things at him. Whine a lot. Something terrible, I'm sure.

I wasn't prepared to see Noah sitting there in a booster seat (EDITED TO POINTEDLY ADD: it's a hybrid booster seat model for kids 30 pounds and up, with the back and headrest that you later remove once they're old enough), looking both incredibly grown-up and yet dwarfed by the rest of the backseat, using the regular seatbelt like a regular person. What's this? Where's rest of the harness? Where are all the extra clips and buckles and assorted things that never snap into place when it's raining? I was also rather alarmed by the neck-strangling placement of the shoulder strap, but it later turned out that was only because he was slouching, and the installation instructions clearly state "Do not allow your child to slouch." Which: Okay, and how do you propose I do that, Mr. Installation Instructions? Make him ride with a book on his head? Poke him with a big ol' pokin' stick every now and then? Would it have killed you wire a mild electric shock into the seat?

A lot of our new sibling "issues" with Noah have more or less came down to the fact that he does not WANT to be a "big kid." Telling him that oh, that carseat is for BABIES and this seat is for BIG KIDS and that's a BABY swing and BABIES poop in their diapers and BABIES can't eat pizza and BIG KIDS don't lose their shit over NEW FUCKING SOCKS basically just cements his belief that being a big kid is highly overrated. He does not like the new and different, he likes the old and familar, an infuriating blend of stubborn toddler and cranky old man.

So he hates the new seat and does not give a fuck that it has cupholders (PLURAL CUPHOLDERS! don't sippy cup and drive, kids!) and some patented seat design that allows cool air to flow under his butt and when I call it a big kid seat he corrects me and says no, it's a BABY SEAT. And then I say fine, it's baby seat and suddenly everything is more or less okay for the rest of the car ride.

You would think by now, after having this exact same conversation with him 7,953,005 times since Ezra's birth that I would stop with the big kid hard sell. I don't know where it comes from, this default form of canned-answer parenting that does not suit my child in the slightest, but I've yet to figure out how to coax him through these boring -- yet traumatic and YOOOGE -- rites of passage without at least trying to convince him that growing up is awesome and fun and yay!

Of course, it really isn't. Growing up is hard and it sucks and then suddenly you're the grown-up. Which is hard and it sucks. Hmm, it's like he's already figured precisely how full of shit I am.



Sprite's Keeper

That picture wraps it up perfectly.
My friend recently had that problem with trying to pass on the carseat to the baby and put a new seat cover in it to camoflauge the old look a bit. She said it worked, so I may try that if it ever comes down to it.


I love that picture. Could there be two more unenthusiastic swinging kids?

simultaneoulsy cute and sad - dear god.


growing up DOES suck. A million times people tell us to "enjoy childhood blah blah blah" and then when you're an adult you smack yourself saying, "Why the eff didn't people TELL me it sucks to be grown up??!"

So maybe, just level with Noah. Sorry kid, just wait until TAXES.


Oh my God, he's so big now. And yeah, they both look hilariously underwhelmed by the whole swinging thing. Kinda like I feel about dieting.


Ouch - cute pics, but he is much too young to be in a booster...


i agree with noah. growing up is hard and sometimes it sucks.
great photo.


OMG--growing up DOES suck! (You've got yourself a smart one, there!)


heh, my son hates the big kid talk too most of the time. BUT when he wants something he is all I AM A BIG KID. Yo you have to be a big kid all the time boy. None of this picking and choosing shit!! He did not seem to care too much about the seat thing BUT he hated HATED his other seat. He said it made his butt hurt and he likes that he can buckle and unbuckle himself. Which is handly unless the 4 yr is wicked pissed at you and just threw a massive temper tantrum because you did not buy him a BOOOOK at B&N hours after he received more loot for his birthday than Christmas... Le sigh.


There's got to be some assvice in every post; why shouldn't some of it come from me? So forgive me if you've thought of and/or tried this and it worked spectacularly UNwell, but have you tried referring to it as a "Noah Seat" instead of a "big kid seat" or a "baby seat?" I only even mention this because it was my KID who thought up this moniker for new things once the baby was born. And I was all, duh, I never thought of that!

sensibly sassy

wow that swing is large and in charge!


I'm not sure how you managed to capture such a sweet, yet melancholy picture of babies on swings, but that's what you've done. Melancholy swings.

And Noah is super-smart. Who wants to grow up?


Would you be willing to share which "Noah seat" you ended up choosing? My Noah is ready for an upgrade but I'm daunted by all the options. I think he'd really like multiple cupholders.


Well assvice here. The best seat for preschoolers is Safeguard's booster seat. It has a 5-point harness, it's a breeze to install. It is the most intelligently designed seat, folds into a compact little bundles. Lovely lovely car seat. Easy to adjust and extremely safe (does not have the airflow and cupholder gimmicks though). I have had every car seat imaginable and when I purchased this at Babyland and used it I wanted to kiss the guy who invented it. Plus you will never have to purchase another car seat. Check it out:

Courtney in FL

What is with the booster seats and the neck cut off thing? My son stills falls asleep in the car and the booster does not deal well with that. He is either cutting off his breathing at the neck due to the strap or flung fully over into the next seat. It just can't be safe so I am trying to find something in the middle of a baby seat and a booster. Any ideas out there??

Oh, and that picture makes me want to smile and cry. It is hard to grow up!


Disclaimer: I am not a mom, and am not trying to judge!

I just thought you might want to see this website I stumbled across:

It just made me pause and think about carseats. Not that I have kids yet, but you know. Its good to worry about my imaginery future children... eek. lol


Oh my goodness...that picture. I don't even know what to say. It's a total contradiction. Kids + swings = yay! It doesn't? Wha...I...I don't get it. It's highly unsettling, and yet so funny.


Also, the banner at the top of your page suggests that this is a good look for pregnancy:


Right, growing up sucks and he has to deal with it one painful lesson at a time. It starts with you telling your darling to sit in the chair that you tell him to. It continues with socks. That sounds harsh but sugar coating works as well as Hmmm?? sugar coating!!! - not so good for the kids.


(Christ, people are cranky today.)


They are only cranky because of all the swine flu not being wine flu, which would be so much better than something that originally came from pigs.

Thanks for the great post. Today my almost two year old has been insisting that he is the baby not the six week old I am nursing. Thanks for a great post.


That picture is priceless! And so are you!


This sounds like my son who isn't at all interested in being grown up, which is apparently why I can't get him to poop on the potty. Or pee. Or even sit on the dang potty. I'm kind of glad we're not having any other kids right now. It would be even more traumatic for him then and I'd probably be unable to potty train him until he's 12!


Cutest little kids ever. Yummy.


More assvice: is there a slightly older kid he idolizes? A cousin, maybe? A friend? Who is full of awesome awesomeness and who sits in a booster seat and wears new socks?


That picture is awesome! Normally kids look so gleeful on swings but yours seem so blasee.

I made up thought bubbles for them. Ezra: 'I was told there'd be boob, where's the boob?' Noah: "This would have been fun if I had my old socks on."


That picture made me laugh...I don't know why either. Probably because they both look so dejected- most kids in swings are smiling...I feel Noah's pain, being a big kid totally sucks! And he doesn't even know it yet...


Please don't take this the wrong way, but most states require a child to be 4 and/or 40 lbs before moving to a booster seat with the regular seat belt. I would hate for you to get a ticket or something worse if he is not in the proper seat for his age/size. If a booster seat for him is within the law, please disregard this comment!


That could be the cutest picture ever.


Maybe try putting on your sunglasses again. Small displays of magic are alway appreciated.


Poor Noah. I think I was in my teens before I figured out that growing up wasn't all it was cracked up to be. Then I started planning on having kids someday so I would be able to live vicariously through them. Turns out you just get to subject them to the growing up that you didn't so much enjoy.

My oldest isn't really into the "big kid" sell. To get him off the bottles entirely (at 2 years old) I had to tell him they were gone--just gone entirely. To finish potty training him, I just had him run around naked from the waist down. So I feel for you with the anticipated "yay for being a big kid" not so much working out. He's also not much for change, though as he gets older and more articulate (he's 5), that seems to be improving as he can make choices and plans. I hope your car seat transition experience improves.

I would love a nice case of "wine flu." And that picture is just about perfect.

Cautionary Girl

Yeesh, he's starting with the Peter Pan Syndrome a little early, eh? He's got a long road ahead of him. I'm 26, and I don't think it ever ends.

I'm super impressed with the fact that he can see straight through the "being a grown-up is great!" bullshit. Smart guy.

Miss Grace

My son is NOT interested in the growing up, and all that it entails. "I don't WANT to be a big kid. I want to be a baby."

Then I say something like, "Well you'll always be my baby."


Okay, seriously. Noah is in a booster seat WITH a back and headrest. Kind of a hybrid between his current seat and a real big kid booster. The backless boosters, yes, have a weight requirement of 40 pounds. The model we purchased for him is for children at least three years old and 30 pounds and up, very highly rated by multiple sources. Noah is well within the weight and height requirements.

(I'm a tad alarmed by the number of people who think I wouldn't like, pay attention something like that. A side effect of playing a dumb blond on the Internet? Great, now I'm cranky.)


Fabulous pic!

No assvice here - sounds like you have a big kid car seat that will become a booster like the one my 3yr old uses, not a "booster seat" since you mentioned the harness so they won't be dragging you off to jail...whew


That picture is genius.

And noah.....I too do not want to be a big kid. I fight against it every day. The job and mortgage fight back on the side of "big kidness".


Personally, I was shocked to learn that you still put Noah in a child safety restraint. He'd be much happier if you'd let him climb all over the inside (and maybe outside) of the car. That's what all the *good* parents do...

Heather, Queen of Shake Shake

Yeah, growing up is great. There's all those taxes to look forward to!

And what's even better than great? Growing up and having a kid who freaks the $%*@ out for two weeks over a new pair of shoes. Like, no one tells you all the fun you'll have tag team wrestling with your husband to get those shoes on your son!

Thank god that stage passes or I'd be writing this comment from the Betty Ford Clinic community room.


I don't blame you for getting cranky. I would be cranky too if so many people assumed I wasn't aware of safety standards and whatnot. No insight here re: Noah. I was the oldest, but only 18 months apart from my sister so I don't remember the whole big kid vs. baby stage. Just hang in there. Hugs.


Starbuck -- *guffaws*

We're just country, is all.

(And omg, it's so good to hear that Noah isn't the only anti-big-kid-propaganda child out there, or the only one with a full-on phobia of NEW CLOTHES OMG NOOOO.)

Formerly Gracie

With a baby due this summer, I find that I'm expecting a lot more out of my son. I guess that's just part of being the first born... and it SUCKS. (Speaking as a first born, of course)

By the way, which booster chair did you get?

I've been looking for one, but that whole "neck-strangling placement of the shoulder strap" freaks me out too.


The solemninty on Noah and Ezra's faces while in their respective swings is hilarious. I might need to look into this poking stick thing too. I have these co-workers who are similarly a blend between grumpy old people and stubborn toddlers...


I can't get KayTar to use the potty. I try the "big kids don't poo in their pants!" bit and she says, "But I AM a big kid and I DO poo in my pants." So, there is the giant flaw in my plan. We're doomed.

kim at allconsuming

That photo is freakin' hilarious.

I hope you yelled at them 'We're going to the park and''


That picture is hilarious. They both have a look of, "What do you want me to do? Dance for you? Psh. Get a monkey."

It's kind of awesome that Noah's figured out that growing up sucks, maybe he won't spend the next few years asking to drive the car like a few kids I know. It's funny and terrifying all at the same time.


That picture is amazing. Ezra looks so ridiculously tiny too. Such a funny picture.


I know others said similar things in other comments, but a child under 4 should not be in a belt-positioning booster. The minimum that is safe for those boosters is 4 years old, 40 inches tall, and 40 pounds. plus, the child should be able to understand the importance of sitting with the belt correctly positioned and not fall asleep. Additionally, it is okay for the baby's feet to hang over the edge of the infant seat as long as the top of his head is at least an inch from the top of the carseat shell and he isn't over the weight limit for the seat. But when you move him to a convertible seat, the new recommendation is to keep kids rearfacing until they reach the limits of the seat.


i may have asked for a bike instead of a car for my 16th birthday. i really feel noah's pain.


Umm, Jen? How exactly do you explain to a 3 yr old the importance of not falling asleep? Or is your point just that he should not *fall* asleep?
Good lord, folks. Do you really think Amalah is dense? Or somehow loves her kid so little that she wouldn't have chosen an appropriate seat?!


That is officially, far and away, my very favorite Amalah picture ever. It's like watching Harold and Maude with a tiny Harold and then an even TINIER Harold.

My tod is all, "big kid? Shyeah, whateves" too. Maybe that strategy was from back in the days when babies spent all of their time locked up in playpens.


Growing up does suck but it sounds like you are doing a great job with them both.


I love how you describe Noah as a stubborn old man :)


I assume that Jen writes better than she reads because she CLEARLY did not read the post.

(She may also want to let the makers of the hybrid-booster seat made for 30 pound kids know that their product is not safe for kids under 40 pounds. Yeesh!)


Sometimes what works for us is rather than the "big kid" talk we say, "this is not how a three year old acts" or we name all of the friends who are a little older who do/use whatever we're trying to hard sell. "These are the same kind of underwear that Daddy, and Uncle Brandon, and Jake, and Daniel wear!" That seems to work more than the baby vs. big kid distinction.


Nope you're not alone. The big boy technique tagged an extra 6 months on to potty training... at least. And yet, like you, it still flies out of my mouth...


That photo is hilarious.

If it makes you feel any better, my four and a half year old, who has a two year old brother, has JUST RECENTLY decided that he is a big kid. Up until he was about 3 years and 11.5 months, he was "little boy" or "baby". Although he was, praise the baby Jesus, potty trained, he refused to have anything to do with the regular toilet, which meant I had to cart his potty seat around to hotels and such. Which, considering he is HUGE, was kinda ridiculous.

But eventually they accept it. It just takes some kids (like ours) time.

Oh, and Jen---my kids have all grown out of the little boosters waaaay before they were four. Yes, they were forty pounds. And yes, they were freakishly tall so they fit perfectly in a big kid booster. So, what am I supposed to do? Cram them into a ridiculously small seat because they're not old enough?

There's always strapping them to the roof of the car. They say they like the breeze. *snerk*


God bless amalah for putting up with all of the carseat crusaders that decided to comment today; as if she already doesn't have enough problems with getting her kid to sit in the carseat. My little guy is underwhelmed by swinging too, I have a video that echos the same sentiment your picture.


He is totally my husband in a three year old's body. (Okay, so that sounds a little weirder than it was meant). I have sworn on more than eleventy billion occasions that my husband is an 84 year old man trapped in the body of a (barely) 30 year old. He is VERY resistant to change. All changes must be thoroughly researched for months in advance of said change actually occurring and then said change must be carefully planned and executed. And in the end, he usually likes things better the way they were. Before the change. Any time his mom mentions the possibility of tweaking the recipe of some old standard dessert or other comestible, he scoffs and refuses to try said modified recipe. Grumbling (much like his now-deceased, personality-identical grandfather), "Why mess with success." And then proceeds to rest his head on the table and cover it with his arm, the elderly equivalent of a temper tantrum. What a curmudgeon.

Oh yeah and he's cheap, to boot. At least Noah is only protesting the changes, he hasn't yet gotten to protestations over the potential cost of said changes, even when they're entirely necessary (like new pants purchased more frequently than every four years!).

Sorry for going on so long.


why is that the PERFECT picture to end that entry...? also, i think i recognize that park. my elementary school took field trips there a lot. sorry you hate my old 'hood! move back to the city so i can be jealous of all your delicious 2 amys pizza.


The picture at the end? Priceless. Seriously Amy, what would I do without your blog?


Ezra as just a head and legs poking out of a swing is the best thing I've seen all day. And his expression is so hum-drum. I love it.


Okay, I only read the first bunch of comments... but seriously, why is everyone acting like that giant red swing is normal? It looks like something out of that "into the cornfield" twilight zone story.

I've learned that being big is only good if you get to do dangerous stuff, so maybe buy him a pocketknife?


that photo is seriously freaking me out because the seat noah is in looks so absurdly large compared to the one ezra is in and it looks photoshopped and it's freaking me out.

having said, my daughter (almost 6) was INSANE about socks until just this year. INSANE. and she vowed she was never going to grow up until recently too. she wanted to stay 3 forever, then 4 forever. now she's almost 6 and growing up looks good to her. the sock thing we resolved with me finally saying get over it, you're ticking me off with the socks. she's old enough now to say , yeah, okay. you're right, it's weird.


Priceless pic - The Swinging McGrumbleson Brothers (what a great name for a band!)


My youngest is almost exactly 2 months younger than Noah. And she HATES being big. "I Sarah and I SMALL!" It is mostly cute (and completely inaccurate because, hello, 95%), but it's a big pain on a few key points. Like the fact that she will not sit on the potty. 3.5 years old and I can count on the fingers of 2 hands the number of times this kid has willingly gone potty. I definitely feel your pain.

Mama Ritchie

My son Charlie is the exact same way. He's still the only child - until September, when his world will be turned upside down with a little brother arriving. He hates changes and he hates the big boy argument. "I'm SMALL, Mom!" he'll say. So I give him different choices now. Either ride in the new car seat or no car ride at all - you can stay home by your very lonesome. He climbs into the seat. Hopefully they'll grow out of it. Or hopefully, in about 14 years or so, they'll go off to college.


You must immediately close comments (after me, of course)and run off to get some ed-yoo-kay-shun on boosters and weight requirements because the internets think you are dumb.

People, please.
Just R-E-A-D the post.


Why are people jumping down the throats of people who are providing the booster seat info? It's a safety matter, not a casual parenting choice. From what Amy has said, Noah is nowhere near 40 pounds. He does not belong in a belt-positioning booster, even if it's not against state guidelines.


From the American Academy of Pediatrics:

"She should ride in a forward-facing seat with a harness until she outgrows it (usually at around 4 years of age and about 40–65 pounds)."


GEESH people ARE crabby today... and not giving Amalah enough credit for doing her research.


Some assvice: DC law requires you to follow the four stages of child restraint found here,a,1237,Q,547424,mpdcNav_GID,1549,mpdcNav,%7C31835%7C,.asp which states they must be over 40lbs to be in a belt-positioning booster.
My son will be six in 3 weeks. He is in a Britax Marathon. 5 point harness to 65 pounds. Safest seat out there. He loves it and all his friends have them. He weighs 44 pounds and no child under 5 rides in my car without a britax. I have an extra.


Even though the seat you purchased has a back and headrest and is approved for 30 lbs and 3 years old - it is much safer to have a 5-point harness. We have this one - we got it on sale for $29 (they have a blue one in the store, if you don't like the burgundy)


We went with the 4 year old rule before buying the booster with back and headrest... and we STILL can't get the kid to sit still and be happily and properly restrained. (ie; he leans forward and sideways and makes the seat tip and generally looks like he's going to be strangled -- yep, 4 year olds are immature! lol)

So we returned it and bought one of the newer booster seats that harness to 65 lbs and THEN become a booster with back.

Now we figure he ain't getting out until he's 10.


I only WISH that ASR would NOT want to be a big kid.... she is almost 4 and I'm having a really hard time dealing with the fact that she isn't a baby anymore!

eleventy frillionth amy

"make him ride with a book on his head?"

that was great lol


I would definitely drop the big boy in favor of 'Noah sized'. Children who are not stupid (read Noah) know that 'big boy' is a demand rather than a prize and noone asked him if he was interested in being a big boy anyway. lol.


We switched our oldest from a booster back to a 5-point-harness. He just couldn't sit right in the booster, it wasn't safe, and he wasn't ready even if he was "big" enough. Now, he's 7, in first grade, and still riding in the 5-point-harness. Talk about not being interested in being a big boy....but, still, safer.


Not to add to the assvice, but I will anyway :-) I did read her post. He is in a belt-positioning booster with a back and headrest. He is too young for it. Even though the maufacturer approves it for that use, there are AAP guidelines and state laws (that others have posted) that support the 4-40-40 rule. There is a certain level of maturity required for using a high back, belt positioing booster that it sounds like Noah is not ready for yet. I have a high back booster wih a 5-point harness for my 4 1/2 year old son that goes to 65 lbs and it was not that spendy.
Please, get a different seat for Noah. Additional bonus: He may be less upset at the change if it is a 5-point harness. Honestly, not trying to be snarky, only helpful.


ok, i totally thought you were talking about booster seats at the kitchen table and was wildly confused. LOL. sorry, i'm a doof :-) hope the transition goes better than you're expecting!


I think the little brother coming along when he did might have been a factor in not wanting to be a big boy -- at least it seemed to be in our household. I mean, the baby gets all the attention: butt wiped, carried, fed, cooed over. Who wouldn't want to be a baby? I'm surprised we ever got our oldest potty trained, given the strong force of "being a baby is best." Anyway, we somehow got through the car seat transition, ourselves, I think because of the cupholder. BTW, our elder son's evaluation is TOMORROW! Or starts tomorrow, anyway, and stretches out to Friday and probably a third day, too. Oh, joy!

Cheryl S.

Poor Noah. My Jessica is all about being a baby too. She's almost 4. And she's an only. (So the sibling thing doesn't always cause it!) I like the idea of getting a car seat cover that someone mentioned. That might help. And the picture? I don't know whether to laugh or cry. . .


My oldest was the same way. The saddest was the day of his 4th birthday, when he woke up crying, "I don't want to be 4! If I go back to bed, and wake up again, can I be 3 again?" I really didn't know how to deal with that, I thought all kids were excited about growing up. I like the idea of the "Noah seat" or saying "big,strong boys" instead of just big boys. All boys want to be strong, right?


That is the cutest/saddest picture - I can't decide! And WOW, people are really harsh today on the carseat issue....yeek.


Lady, I feel you. Three years old SUX!!!11!!1


So...why not switch gears on him? He'll always be your baby's your new baby boy seat.

What? What's that? No cake for you, because that's for big boys. Time to go to bed because only big boys stay up late. Oh, UR a big boy now?? :) I'm sure that's easier said than done, and I'll re-lurk now...


Noah might have seemed to big for his carseat, but he looks so teeny in that swing! It's also not fair that the passenger side of both our cars does not have a cupholder, yet kids can have them on their carseats. I'M the one who needs a beverage handy at all times!


Just and FYI: Well..after you get past the whole I hate my new seat business (we run into the same crap with my boys) the backless booster is not very comfortable. My 7 year old still rides in a booster with a back. We have a backless as an extra and when he has had to use it he tells me it's uncomfortable. I haven't moved my 4 year old into a booster yet because I hate having to say "sit up, sit back" 5 million times during a 10 minute ride. Good Luck with Noah's new seat!!!

ps. Truthfully, most of us hate change so I don't blame him one bit. :)


PSS. Wait until Ezra is trying to ride in Noah's seat and Noah becomes all "NOOOO it's MY seat!!" We get that round our house a lot these days.


Okay, I'm addressing this really quick-like here and then closing comments -- I'm sorry, but I'm just not in the mood to spend my day knowing that I'm getting yelled at over and over in the comments. It's always a little unnerving.

Noah is in a high-back forward facing booster seat, a highly-rated, popular model (Graco AirBooster -, federally-approved, legal-in-our-state (some people seem to be taking the AAP 4-40-40 recommendation [which also says "depending on the model" and stresses the importance of following the manufacturer's directions] and assuming that it's also law, which in our state it most certainly is not) seat, for which he exceeds the minimum height and weight requirements. The lap and shoulder belt are positioned perfectly according to every federal guideline I could find. Unless he's slouching a lot. But you know, I gots the poking stick.

Ezra (who is not just too long, but too heavy for the infant seat) will get our convertible Britax Marathon -- a seat that frankly, I find ridiculously overrated and overpriced (we've had a ton of problems with the buckle and with getting the seat angled correctly on our not-even backseat surface), so I admit, I was not in a rush to spend another few hundred dollars on a Britax booster when I haven't exactly had a great experiences with the seat we own. He will sit rear-facing, thanks for that little-known tip.

Anyway, I do believe Noah is safe in his seat -- way, WAY safer than what we rattled around in back when I was a kid, good Christ. If you guys have more to say about it, perhaps you should write to Graco and the manufacturers of similar seat models and question how they came to the 3 years old and 30 pounds requirement. If the seat ever gets recalled or something, I will be the first to send mine back and eat major crow. For now, moving on!


I guess the promise of "really big kids get to drink wine" wouldn't fly, huh?

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